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Biology has put special emphasis on dissipative structures, open , instable and fluctuating systems of dynamic/complex feedback. These systems collapse into higher orders and become involved in the biological organization of living organisms. Similarly, computers have been used to examine the phase transitions from ordered to disordered states, as well as the mechanisms of morphogenesis and self-similarity. In the development of self-referential loops (feedback) enormous complexity becomes visible. It seems that the catastrophe of the infinite retreat of computation seems to suddenly become a creative perspective. The strange characteristics of a self-referential loops extending into infinity (and into nothingness) were described (Hofstaedter´s "Goedel, Escher, Bach" and others) but were relevant for ages to the non-European world.